1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,000 on this episode of Expedition X. 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,000 Oh! 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Oh, that is so steep. Don't look. 4 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,000 My team heads to the deserts of New Mexico 5 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,000 to investigate one of the most compelling UFO encounters 6 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,000 in American history. 7 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,000 This is a case that changed everything right here. 8 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:21,000 Where local law enforcement report a bizarre craft. 9 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,000 They saw a great big spaceship. 10 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,000 Piloted by extraterrestrial beings. 11 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,000 One of them turned and faced him and scared him. 12 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,000 How do these wits? 13 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,000 Getting steep up here. 14 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,000 Try not to fall off the edge. 15 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:39,000 And according to some, it seems like a fleet of craft. 16 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,000 They have returned. 17 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,000 Different nuclear military operations 18 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,000 made this kind of a hotbed for UFO sightings. 19 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,000 Jess, get over here! 20 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,000 Let me see, let me see. 21 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,000 Check that out. 22 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,000 What the f***? 23 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,000 What is this? 24 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,000 UFOs over New Mexico. 25 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,000 My name is Josh Gates. 26 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,000 In my travels, I've experienced strange things 27 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,000 that defy logic and made me question everything. 28 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,000 Oh my God. 29 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,000 Now, I've put together a team to investigate 30 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,000 the stranger side of the unknown. 31 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,000 Let's go! 32 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:22,000 Phil Torres is a scientist who hunts for rational explanations. 33 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,000 This is the corner for naturally found snowstorms. 34 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:29,000 Jessica Chobot's paranormal research has made her a true believer. 35 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,000 Phil, did you see that? 36 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,000 I just saw some paper across. 37 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,000 Together, we're searching for answers 38 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,000 What is that? 39 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,000 to the world's most extraordinary mysteries. 40 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,000 This is Expedition X. 41 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,000 Phil and Jess, I hope you're ready. 42 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,000 We've got a wild one today. 43 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,000 What you got? 44 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:57,000 Are you out familiar with the 1947 Roswell incident in New Mexico? 45 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,000 Right. When I poured weather balloon crash, it was terrible. 46 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,000 Are you for real right now? 47 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,000 Stay calm Jess, stay calm. 48 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,000 Well, what if I told you there was another, 49 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,000 potentially even more significant incident 50 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,000 that occurred only 140 miles from Roswell, 51 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:11,000 about 15 years later. 52 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:16,000 Not a crash, but supposedly an actual landing of a UFO 53 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,000 and allegedly a close encounter with alien beings. 54 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,000 So we're talking the Lonnie Zamora incident, 55 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,000 which is the one that happened to me the day before yesterday. 56 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,000 I'm sure you'll be able to see it tomorrow, New Mexico. 57 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:31,000 Unbelievable. You never fail to impress me, Jess. Amazing. 58 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,000 Before we dive into it, Phil, you have gone on record as saying 59 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:38,000 you think that extraterrestrials could be out there somewhere, right? 60 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:39,000 Out there for sure. 61 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:43,000 I mean, scientists believe that there are over 400 billion galaxies 62 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,000 in our universe, and in our galaxy alone, 63 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,000 they found several hundred habitable planets. 64 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,000 Here, and that brings us back to the Zamora incident. 65 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,000 When this occurred, the US government investigated this thoroughly, 66 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,000 and they couldn't solve it. It remains unsolved. 67 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:00,000 Locals in this area believe that the Zamora incident was real, 68 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,000 and they're still having experiences. 69 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,000 Experiences that they say can end the debate 70 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,000 over extraterrestrials once and for all. 71 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,000 New Mexico ranks among the states with the most UFO sightings 72 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:18,000 in the country, with reports nearly doubling in the last two years, 73 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,000 and they're still on the rise. 74 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:24,000 But if we trace the state's most significant UFO cases, 75 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,000 it begins with the Roswell incident in 1947, 76 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:32,000 and perhaps an even stranger event just 15 years later. 77 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:37,000 The year is 1964, Socorro, New Mexico. 78 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,000 At approximately 5.45 p.m., 79 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,000 police sergeant Lonnie Zamora is pursuing a reckless driver 80 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,000 just outside of town when he hears a loud roar 81 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:51,000 followed by a large flame rising from the desert off the highway. 82 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,000 He breaks off the chase to investigate. 83 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:58,000 When he crests a hill, he claims to see an oval-shaped object 84 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:02,000 emblazoned with a strange symbol resting on four legs, 85 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:06,000 with two small beings next to what appears to be a spaceship. 86 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,000 As he approaches on foot, 87 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:12,000 the craft suddenly lifts into the air and races away across the desert sky. 88 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:17,000 Zamora is shaken and calls in his encounter to the local dispatch. 89 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:22,000 The next day, the government's UFO investigation program, Project Blue Book, 90 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:27,000 sends their top investigators to the scene, where they record physical evidence, 91 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:33,000 charged scrub, indentations in the soil, and even small footprints. 92 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:41,000 But Project Blue Book is shut down in 1969 without ever solving the case. 93 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,000 Lonnie Zamora dies in 2009. 94 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,000 Despite a lifetime of scrutiny into his story, 95 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:51,000 he never wavered that what he saw was from another world. 96 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:55,000 And just recently, hundreds of declassified federal documents 97 00:04:55,000 --> 00:05:00,000 have emerged about the Zamora incident, reinvigorating the mystery. 98 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,000 On top of that, some say UFOs have returned to Socorro. 99 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:08,000 Recently, a mass sighting was seen by multiple eyewitnesses, 100 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,000 including pilots, military personnel, and civilians, 101 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:15,000 all claiming to see unidentified objects in the sky 102 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:20,000 and putting the city of Socorro back under the cosmic microscope. 103 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,000 So, guys, what do you think? 104 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,000 I'll admit, Lonnie Zamora seems like he was a very credible witness. 105 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,000 He wasn't just some random guy with a temp-oil hat. 106 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,000 He was a trained police officer. 107 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,000 Yeah, and I think that's a good point, 108 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:41,000 because law enforcement usually aren't the typical people to come forward with UFO encounters. 109 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,000 That's what makes this case so fascinating. 110 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,000 And the fact that there are new sightings today 111 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,000 means it is the perfect time to reopen this case. 112 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,000 So I've been trying to get in contact with some of these eyewitnesses 113 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,000 from this new mass sighting, 114 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,000 but so far they've all been very reluctant to go public. 115 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,000 But I'm going to keep working those leads, 116 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,000 and I think that where you should start 117 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:04,000 is to really try to understand the original Zamora incident 118 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,000 and see if it could be connected to the sightings that are happening today. 119 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,000 You up for this? 120 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:09,000 Hell yeah. 121 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,000 Sounds like a plan. 122 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,000 All right, go have a close encounter. 123 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:18,000 My team hops on a 2,000-mile flight from New York City to Albuquerque, 124 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:23,000 then drives 76 miles south to the small town of Socorro. 125 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:28,000 While I try to line up a credible eyewitness for the recent UFO sighting in the area, 126 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:32,000 I'm directing Jess and Phil to dig deeper into the Zamora incident. 127 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,000 Out of any of the investigations that we do, 128 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:38,000 I feel like UFOs are the most likely to actually exist. 129 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,000 Oh my... 130 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:40,000 Out of all of them! 131 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,000 Oh no, you are a believer! 132 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:46,000 But that doesn't mean that every story that you hear is real, 133 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,000 or even the majority of them are real. 134 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,000 There's a lot of aspects of the Socorro story 135 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:54,000 that I'm questioning, like tiny alien people coming out of there. 136 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,000 It's a little weird. 137 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,000 I understand, but keep in mind, 138 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,000 there was an eyewitness, 139 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:05,000 and the government took it seriously enough that they actually sent out people 140 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,000 to check out the scene. 141 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,000 So, something must have happened. 142 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:12,000 I think there's the potential there that Lonnie Zamora actually encountered aliens. 143 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:16,000 The fact that they're always conveniently bipedal, upright, 144 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,000 they have eyes, they have hands, 145 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:22,000 that all just seems a little unimaginative to what's really out there in the universe. 146 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,000 My opinion, if something is visiting us here, 147 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,000 if there is no doubt in my mind, we would be taken over and destroyed. 148 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,000 That's the optimist in you, Jess. 149 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:39,000 We've arrived at the site where Lonnie Zamora supposedly witnessed an alien craft. 150 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,000 Is it hailing? 151 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:42,000 What? 152 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,000 Oh my gosh. 153 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:44,000 That is cold! 154 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,000 Oh yeah! 155 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,000 All sorts of weird things coming out of the sky here. 156 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:48,000 Yeah. 157 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:52,000 I've arranged for my team to meet renowned UFO investigator James Fox. 158 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,000 Hi! 159 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,000 Nice to meet you guys. 160 00:07:56,000 --> 00:08:02,000 Two years ago, James and I investigated another infamous UFO case in Zimbabwe, 161 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:08,000 where in 1994, 62 schoolchildren claimed to witness a UFO landing. 162 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:14,000 The details are strikingly similar to what Lonnie Zamora reported seeing in 1964. 163 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,000 James is a filmmaker, journalist, and author, 164 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:21,000 who has studied every detail of the Zamora case for over five years 165 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:25,000 and has spent decades pursuing answers to the mysteries of UFOs. 166 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,000 This is a case that changed everything right here. 167 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:32,000 You came out here to check out where the actual landing occurred. 168 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,000 Can you guys show us? 169 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,000 Absolutely. 170 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:36,000 You want to lead the way? 171 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,000 Sure. 172 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:42,000 With James is Pablo Lopez, who arrived at the scene minutes after Lonnie Zamora 173 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,000 reported the incident to the authorities. 174 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,000 He was 20 years old at the time. 175 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:55,000 This is a spot where it landed. 176 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,000 How did you end up here? 177 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,000 I was at the sheriff's office. 178 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,000 My dad was a radio operator, and I went in to visit with him. 179 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:07,000 And Lonnie came over the air, and he was really, really scared. 180 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,000 And he said he saw a great big spaceship. 181 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,000 He said, who landed right here? 182 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,000 I came up here with a sheriff. 183 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:20,000 When I got here, there was bushes here that were smoldering. 184 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,000 They still had smoke coming out of them and some fire. 185 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,000 And there was footprints. 186 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,000 The footprints were tiny. 187 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:32,000 They were probably three inches long and maybe an inch and a half, two inches wide. 188 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:33,000 Like a three-year-old's? 189 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,000 Yes. 190 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,000 Lonnie said they weren't over that tall. 191 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:41,000 One of them turned and faced him, and it scared him out of his wits. 192 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,000 What do you think landed here? 193 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,000 A UFO. 194 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,000 Really? 195 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,000 Yeah, something like that. 196 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:47,000 Something unexplainable. 197 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,000 Officer Zamoro was a man's man, OK? 198 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,000 So you knew him personally? 199 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,000 I knew him personally, yes. 200 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,000 Officer Zamoro wasn't the same person after this. 201 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,000 He saw what he saw, and it was for real. 202 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:03,000 I gotta admit, this is messing with my brain a little bit. 203 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,000 So James, why this case? 204 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,000 Why does this one stand out to you? 205 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:14,000 This case right here is what gave Project Bluebook the conclusion that UFOs were not only real, 206 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:22,000 but that close encounters of the third kind, and that's cases where witnesses report beings associated with the craft. 207 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,000 So what are some of the details that you've gleaned from your investigating? 208 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:33,000 There was a blue flame that came down from this object, and it didn't hit the ground and reflect like a rocket booster would do it. 209 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,000 It penetrated into the ground. 210 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,000 I'm like anything you've ever seen. 211 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:46,000 This object rises to about 20 feet off the ground, and then it completely shuts off all propulsion as an absolute silent. 212 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:55,000 You look at the Air Force's own files, and they're saying that what took place here defies a terrestrial explanation. 213 00:10:55,000 --> 00:11:01,000 I brought some documents that I personally got at the National Archives from Project Bluebook files. 214 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,000 You can take a look at some of these here. 215 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,000 Wow. 216 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:06,000 These are great photos. 217 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:07,000 Look how old they are. 218 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,000 That is. 219 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,000 Yeah. 220 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:18,000 So what I basically want to illustrate here is the level of seriousness that the Air Force took when they were investigating this case. 221 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:25,000 James has meticulously compiled hundreds of official government files on this case, and two things stand out. 222 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,000 First, the government investigation was exhaustive. 223 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,000 The site was extensively combed for evidence. 224 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,000 Soil samples were taken and scrutinized. 225 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:37,000 Every radar station within 100 miles was contacted. 226 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:45,000 They even tried to match the indentations at the landing site with every variety of plane and helicopter that was operating in the region. 227 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:51,000 Despite their efforts, the Project Bluebook investigators could not come up with a rational explanation for what happened. 228 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,000 The other major takeaway? 229 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,000 The investigators believed Officer Zamora. 230 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:01,000 Not only did they consider him credible, but that this incident was, and I quote, 231 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:10,000 the best authenticated landing sighting on record, and one of the major UFO sightings in the history of the Air Force. 232 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,000 So what's your theory on this then? 233 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,000 Why would aliens be interested in this area? 234 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:21,000 I started looking at sightings in the 40s and 50s and 60s, and I actually took out a map. 235 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:25,000 And I was looking at proximity to different nuclear military operations. 236 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,000 You know, Trinity site, 44 miles away. 237 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:34,000 We got white sands all over the airport space, and I thought there must be some sort of correlation with our nuclear activity, 238 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:38,000 our atomic activity that had made this kind of a hotbed for UFO sightings. 239 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:45,000 Intense UFO activity around our most dangerous weapons would definitely be an issue of national security. 240 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:49,000 Thousands of nuclear tests have been conducted in these deserts. 241 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:58,000 New Mexico still has a stockpile of 700 nuclear bombs and over 1,800 active warheads that could be deployed in minutes. 242 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:08,000 There are structured craft of unknown origin, whizzing around with impunity under super sensitive military installations. 243 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,000 We don't know who they are, where they come from, or what they want. 244 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:17,000 The military bases are all around here, so I would just think it's going to be a military craft. 245 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:23,000 But you're saying that because the military is here, that's why the UFOs are interested in this location? 246 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,000 That's why I'm here. 247 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,000 I'm here to help you. 248 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,000 I'm here to help you. 249 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,000 I'm here to help you. 250 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,000 I'm here to help you. 251 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,000 I'm here to help you. 252 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,000 I'm here to help you. 253 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:41,000 Because the military is here, that's why the UFOs are interested in this location? 254 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,000 That's the one likely scenario. 255 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:54,000 If the Coro's high concentration of UFO sightings is due to its proximity to the military installations in the area, we need to pressure test that theory. 256 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:59,000 So after reviewing topographical maps, we've found the most perfect spot to set up some surveillance. 257 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:06,000 A mesa in the middle of the desert, located between the landing site of the Zamora incident and White Sands missile range. 258 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:13,000 It offers the perfect elevated vantage point to monitor the skies over Socorro to the northwest and White Sands to the south. 259 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:20,000 Our objective is to reach the mesa before nightfall and investigate for any unusual activity. 260 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,000 But getting there, that's the tricky part. 261 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,000 Come on. 262 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,000 Woo! 263 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,000 Just up here? 264 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:34,000 Yeah. 265 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,000 To the base of that mesa, try to get up there. 266 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:38,000 Height gone up? 267 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,000 Yeah. 268 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,000 Hey Phil, we got a river up ahead. 269 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:49,000 Alright, not sure how deep this thing is. Hope these horses swim. 270 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,000 Looks like there's a passage through here. 271 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,000 Yeah, let's go. 272 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:04,000 Alright Jess, I don't think the horses are going to go any higher. 273 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,000 I think you're right. 274 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:14,000 The height of this mesa, which rises 1200 feet, makes it ideal for viewing the night sky without any light pollution. 275 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,000 It's getting steep up here. 276 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,000 But getting to the top won't be easy. 277 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:22,000 We're facing a 70% grade climb over loose shale with a sheer drop off. 278 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:24,000 Good? 279 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,000 Yeah. 280 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:26,000 Yeah. 281 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,000 Just looking for snakes, trying not to fall off the edge. 282 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,000 Yeah, watch where you put your hands. 283 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,000 Could be a snake hole anywhere. 284 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,000 Jess, watch your step. 285 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,000 Oh, you got this. 286 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:01,000 Well, look around. 287 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,000 We got sky in every direction here. 288 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:10,000 Well, if nothing else, aliens will see us and say, who are those two idiots that got to the top of that hill? 289 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,000 Let's not say anything it takes. 290 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:24,000 With nightfall upon us, I'm attaching a low light lens to one of our cameras, which will amplify the surrounding light and allow us to more easily view objects that would usually be hidden in darkness. 291 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:32,000 Jess has brought the FLIR camera, which has infrared sensors that can detect heat signatures from any airborne object. 292 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,000 If there are any craft in the sky tonight, we're going to see them. 293 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,000 We've got 360 view of this entire area. 294 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:47,000 Because you have such a good lock on the stars in the sky, I'll search over here with the FLIR where the military bases are. 295 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,000 Okay. 296 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:55,000 There's been a big uptick of sightings from people in this area, so just look for anything that seems even slightly out of the ordinary. 297 00:16:55,000 --> 00:17:04,000 I do think between this camera and your FLIR, we should hopefully be able to get whatever that something is on tape to help identify it. 298 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,000 Yeah. 299 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:16,000 I'll be facing northwest towards Sikoro, where Lonnie Zamora had his encounter, while Jess will scan the southern skies towards Holloman Air Force Base and the White Sands missile range. 300 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:25,000 So right now I can see the Milky Way, but I'm also seeing some movement. 301 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:29,000 So, so far, anything that's moving and blinking, it's a plane. 302 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:35,000 Anything that's moving really, really steady in one direction and not blinking, that's a satellite. 303 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:40,000 What I'm interested in is anything that's moving that strays outside of those parameters. 304 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,000 Oh, I just saw some lightning down there. 305 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,000 Nothing yet. 306 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,000 What the hell is that? 307 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,000 What the f***? 308 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,000 It's glowing, it's spinning. 309 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,000 Brian, you getting this? You getting this? 310 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,000 Yeah, I've got it. 311 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,000 Jess, right over there! 312 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,000 Look it over there! 313 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,000 Oh! I can't get focus on it! 314 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,000 Are you kidding? This is f***ing nuts! 315 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,000 Why is this not showing up on my flare? 316 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:24,000 I got it on tape! You seeing that? Is it showing up on the flare? 317 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:28,000 No, I can't get it on the flare! Come on! 318 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,000 Holy f***! 319 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:35,000 Oh my God! So it's below cloud level. Jess, get over here! 320 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,000 Alright! 321 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,000 Let me see, let me see. 322 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,000 Check that out. 323 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,000 I could not pick that up on my flare. 324 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,000 Man, it's traveling fast. 325 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:48,000 Really fast. 326 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:52,000 Well, that definitely looks like a disc. 327 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:53,000 Oh my God. 328 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,000 Holy f***! I lost it! 329 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:00,000 The object appeared to accelerate out of frame, 330 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,000 and we were unable to locate it after that, 331 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:07,000 leaving Phil and I to try to make sense of what the hell we just saw. 332 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:11,000 So, it came from the direction of Sikoro. 333 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,000 Uh-huh. 334 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:17,000 It pivoted suddenly and started heading towards White Sands and Holmen Air Force Base. 335 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,000 It didn't have a heat signature. 336 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:24,000 So it's not a plane, because the thermal would have definitely picked up on the heat coming off it. 337 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:29,000 The spin is weird. The speed, the height is weird. 338 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,000 I don't know what that is. 339 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:35,000 We saw a UFO, an unidentified flying object. 340 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:46,000 The shape, speed, and rotation of the object we saw tonight 341 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:52,000 is similar to the now famous video captured by United States Navy F-18 pilots. 342 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,000 Look at that thing. It's a rocket. 343 00:19:55,000 --> 00:20:00,000 For me, the similarities between our UFO and the Navy's are impossible to ignore. 344 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:05,000 But what exactly is the difference between the UFO and the UFO? 345 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:11,000 The difference between the UFO and the UFO is that the UFO is a very different object. 346 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,000 But what exactly are these objects? 347 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:19,000 In the case of the F-18 sighting, our own government admits they haven't got a clue. 348 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,000 Oh, they did? My God. 349 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:27,000 It's not lost on me that Lonnie Zamora claimed to see a strange egg-shaped craft 350 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,000 touched down just 10 miles from this location. 351 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:33,000 But as I replay in my mind what Jess and I experienced tonight, 352 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,000 something happened just before the object appeared. 353 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,000 Lightning lit up the sky. 354 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,000 Oh, I saw some lightning down there. 355 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,000 I can't help but wonder if that could be a clue to understanding 356 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,000 what is really going on here in New Mexico. 357 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,000 Whoa, that was unprepared for that. 358 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,000 Oh, that is so steep, though. 359 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,000 Oh, f***, don't look. 360 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,000 Oh, my gosh, I'm not gonna look. 361 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,000 Why are you taking me up this road? 362 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,000 Oh, yeah, get this. 363 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:14,000 Last year, New Mexico had twice the normal rate of lightning strikes. 364 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:20,000 The same year that New Mexico is reporting way more UFO sightings. 365 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:24,000 And last night, lightning struck right before I saw the object. 366 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,000 Maybe it's all connected. 367 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,000 I'll admit that some types of lightning, like ball lightning, 368 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:33,000 have been used to explain some UFOs, but I don't think that's what we saw. 369 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,000 There happens to be a facility at the top of this hill 370 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:42,000 that specializes in rare atmospheric phenomena in New Mexico. 371 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,000 Call them up this morning. They're happy to see us. 372 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,000 So we'll see what answers they have. 373 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,000 Hello. Hi. How are you? 374 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,000 We're good. Good. 375 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,000 Come on in. The door right there. 376 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,000 The door that says danger, keep out. 377 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,000 Don't worry about it. That's the one. 378 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,000 I'll let you go first. You're welcome. 379 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,000 I've arranged a meeting with Harold Edens, 380 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:12,000 the director of the Langmuir Laboratory for Atmospheric Research. 381 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,000 This guy studies lightning for living. 382 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,000 Yeah, I'm pretty jealous. 383 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,000 Welcome to the top of the world. 384 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,000 Here's why we are here. 385 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:30,000 One theory I've had about UFO sightings around here 386 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,000 is it could just be lightning 387 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,000 or some kind of atmospheric phenomenon 388 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,000 making people think they're seeing a flying aircraft. 389 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,000 So have you seen examples of lightning 390 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,000 that could be confused with something like a UFO? 391 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,000 Yes, I have. Let's go take a look. 392 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,000 Since 1963, scientists here have been studying 393 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,000 and provoking lightning with ingenious technology. 394 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,000 They've used weather balloons, electric cables, 395 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:59,000 and even rockets shot directly into storm clouds. 396 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,000 I feel like this whole building 397 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,000 looks like the coolest movie set ever. 398 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,000 It's a time capsule now, because nowadays 399 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,000 everything can be done by just basically a computer right here. 400 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,000 The scientists here have managed to capture 401 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,000 incredible footage of all kinds of lightning 402 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,000 and extremely rare atmospheric phenomenon, 403 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,000 which could explain the massive number 404 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,000 of UFO sightings in the area. 405 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,000 This is intra-cloud lightning. 406 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,000 Whoa! 407 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:28,000 So intra-cloud lightning is entirely within the thunderstorm. 408 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,000 It lights up. People see a flash of light suddenly, 409 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,000 but you may not know there's lightning storm around. 410 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,000 Another type of rare lightning takes place 411 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,000 about 50 miles above the surface of the Earth. 412 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,000 We have something called sprites. 413 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,000 That looks like an alien invasion. 414 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,000 That does look like straight out of War of the Worlds. 415 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,000 The luminous tendrils in spright lightning 416 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,000 can spread out for dozens of miles, 417 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,000 which could easily be misinterpreted 418 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,000 as something from another world. 419 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,000 But I'm eager to ask Dr. Eden's 420 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,000 his opinion about a theoretical type of lightning 421 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,000 that many people believe could be the answer 422 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,000 to the majority of UFO reports. 423 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,000 What about ball lightning? 424 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,000 First of all, is it even real? 425 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,000 I think the evidence about ball lightning 426 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,000 is so overwhelming that you basically have to admit, 427 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,000 so to speak, that ball lightning probably exists. 428 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,000 Ball lightning is usually described as glowing orbs of electricity 429 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,000 that have been reported both in the sky 430 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,000 and close to the ground. 431 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,000 They appear for a few seconds or even a few minutes. 432 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:30,000 So it would be something that would be glowing in the air, 433 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,000 persisting for at least several seconds 434 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,000 and potentially even moving. 435 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,000 It's usually moving based on eye-evaluable reports. 436 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,000 The fact that a top atmospheric scientist 437 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,000 believes ball lightning is a real phenomenon 438 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,000 means it could easily be misidentified as a UFO. 439 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,000 And after seeing unusual forms of lightning 440 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,000 recorded in the same skies where people are reporting UFOs, 441 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,000 you could explain a lot of sightings. 442 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:58,000 But I'll admit, these examples don't match what we saw last night 443 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:02,000 and whatever Lonnie Zamora witnessed in 1964. 444 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,000 With questions still looming, 445 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:08,000 we decide to check in with Josh to update him on our progress. 446 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,000 Hey Josh! 447 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,000 Hi! 448 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,000 Greetings, Earthlings! 449 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,000 How goes the search? 450 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,000 Any little green men yet? 451 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:18,000 No little green men, but man, we have seen some weird stuff. 452 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,000 Really? 453 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,000 Oh yeah. 454 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,000 We actually went to the top of a mesa, 455 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,000 and sure enough when we were up there, 456 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,000 we saw a weird glowing light. 457 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,000 What the f***? 458 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,000 It was strange. 459 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,000 Wait, Phil, did you see a UFO? 460 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,000 Yeah, that's what I'm trying to tell you. 461 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,000 But for me, it still keeps coming down to the fact 462 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,000 that there's so much military activity around here. 463 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,000 To your point, Phil, there are a lot of things flying around up there. 464 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,000 I want to play something for you, actually. 465 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,000 This is a conversation between two commercial pilots 466 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:51,000 that was captured fairly recently in the area that you're investigating. 467 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,000 Listen to this. 468 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,000 You ready? 469 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,000 Yeah. 470 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,000 Yeah. 471 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,000 Albuquerque, 7-1-Papa Golf. 472 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,000 There was 7-1-Papa Golf, good. 473 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:05,000 And it was anybody at the top above us that passed us like 30 seconds ago. 474 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,000 There was 7-1-Papa Golf, negative. 475 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:16,000 American 1095, let me know if you see anything pass over you here in the next 15 miles. 476 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:22,000 I don't know what it was, it wasn't an airplane, but it was a capital-seq on-off subtraction. 477 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,000 A UFO. 478 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,000 Whoa, did he just say UFO? 479 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,000 Ooh, UFO! 480 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,000 He really said that. 481 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,000 Yes. 482 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,000 This is literally just one account. 483 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,000 There are several of these that have recently happened. 484 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:39,000 We're talking commercial pilots, Air Force personnel, air traffic controllers. 485 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,000 All in this area, they're really credible. 486 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:49,000 And after a lot of work, I have finally convinced one of them to talk with you about another mass sighting that happened just last week. 487 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:57,000 Until now, few have gone on record to talk about this new UFO sighting over Sikoro. 488 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:06,000 But Josh managed to track down a woman that works at a nearby military base, who not only witnessed the event, she caught it on camera. 489 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:10,000 She's agreed to speak with us, but only on the condition that we obscure her identity. 490 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:18,000 I know that you didn't want to have your image on camera, so I really appreciate you taking the time to talk with us. 491 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,000 Yeah, definitely. 492 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:23,000 Can you walk us through the night? Like, what did you see? 493 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,000 I was driving home from Sikoro to Magdalena. 494 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:33,000 I had my kids in the car, and I started to hear this rattling in my engine, so I pulled the car over. 495 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:37,000 And that's when I noticed a single light that was coming towards us in the sky. 496 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:45,000 So I gave my daughter my cell phone and asked her to film it for us. 497 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:51,000 When we pull up the footage that her daughter captured, you can clearly see an unidentified light. 498 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:57,000 Whoa! Right there. There's definitely something in the sky. 499 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:04,000 It's hard to make out exactly what we're seeing, but a closer look reveals something even stranger. 500 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,000 There's more than one. Oh my God. 501 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:22,000 My team is reviewing eyewitness footage captured just last week of unexplained lights in the Sikoro night sky by a woman who wishes to remain anonymous. 502 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,000 There's more than one. Oh my God. 503 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,000 You could see it was actually multiple lights. 504 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,000 Oh my gosh. Look at that. 505 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,000 I do see multiple lights? 506 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,000 Yeah, me too. 507 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,000 You could see there's what, three, four different lights? 508 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,000 Yeah, like a whole line of them. 509 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,000 Interesting. 510 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:44,000 So you don't think you saw just a single UFO? You think you saw what, a formation of them? 511 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,000 It seemed kind of like a fleet of craft. 512 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,000 Which direction did you see those lights? 513 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:54,000 I saw the lights to the southeast hovering right around South Baldy Peak. 514 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:59,000 I've heard stories about UFOs and aliens, but I've always been skeptic. 515 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,000 After this, I don't know what to think. 516 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:08,000 According to our eyewitness, the strange fleet of craft were flying over South Baldy Peak. 517 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:12,000 Just east of Sikoro and the legendary Zamora landing site. 518 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:16,000 So we're heading over 10,000 feet into the Magdalena Mountains. 519 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,000 And thank God there's a road. 520 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,000 That is really hard. 521 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,000 Keeping my eyes on the road. 522 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,000 Okay, I got it. 523 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:28,000 This position also offers a direct line of sight towards White Sands Missile Range 524 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,000 and Holloman Air Force Base to the southeast. 525 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:37,000 With no lightning in the forecast, there will be no mistaking anything we see as atmospheric phenomenon. 526 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:42,000 And tonight, I'll be deploying a brand new technique to hunt for UFOs. 527 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,000 And it's gonna blow Phil's mind. 528 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,000 What is this? 529 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,000 I'll show you. 530 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,000 Three, two, one. 531 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,000 What? 532 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,000 Right? 533 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:06,000 So one of the theories running around UFO circles right now is that aliens are attracted to anything that has a lot of lights and lasers. 534 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,000 And so I figured we'd bring this out here. 535 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:12,000 We're out in the middle of nowhere and try and lure some UFOs in. 536 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:16,000 So they're like space cats in the sky following laser pointers. 537 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,000 Pretty much. 538 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:28,000 It may sound far-fetched, but a few years ago, an astrophysicist at MIT proposed shooting a high-powered laser into deep space to attract extraterrestrials to Earth. 539 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:33,000 They have yet to put the plan into action, so allow me to make some history. 540 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:39,000 Now while my setup won't beam into deep space, it is reaching the outer edges of our atmosphere. 541 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:44,000 So if any visitors to Earth are in the neighborhood, maybe this will get their attention. 542 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:53,000 You know, the other night when we filmed what we filmed in the sky, I realized that that low-light IR camera didn't quite have the resolution I was looking for. 543 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,000 This is the PVS-14. 544 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,000 This is essentially military-grade night vision technology. 545 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,000 This thing is gonna let us see absolutely everything out there. 546 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:05,000 Well, I'm gonna head out with my night vision. Are you just gonna sit here and stare at your lasers? 547 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:15,000 As much as I would like to hang out here and sing Pink Floyd to myself, you know, a lot of people say that when they see these UFOs, that there's not any sound that they can hear. 548 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:20,000 But maybe it's just because the sound they do emit is just too faint for the human ear to pick up. 549 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,000 So I figured I'd bring the parabolic mic. 550 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:30,000 You can be the eyes, I'll be the ears, lasers will be the lure, and any sound that I pick up, I can record, and we can go back and listen and analyze it later. 551 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,000 All right. Sounds like a plan. 552 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:45,000 All right. This thing can see anything out here in the dark. 553 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:51,000 This military-grade scope can amplify any surrounding light more than any night vision device in the world. 554 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,000 But there's one problem is that it can't record. 555 00:31:55,000 --> 00:32:05,000 So that's why we 3D printed this, a mount for the scope that attaches to a smartphone that we can record on. 556 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,000 So I'll get my evidence. 557 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,000 Look at that. There's just lasers. 558 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:23,000 I don't know if anybody's ever tried to actually record a UFO sound with something like this. 559 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,000 Maybe we'll get lucky. 560 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,000 Wait, I'm getting something. 561 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:50,000 So I'm kind of picking up a persistent hum in this direction, a low hum. 562 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,000 There, right there. 563 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,000 What the f***? 564 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,000 So are you there? 565 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,000 Yeah, I'm here. How's it going? 566 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,000 I keep hearing things. 567 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,000 What are you hearing? 568 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,000 I don't know what it is. It's kind of like this low hum. 569 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,000 Are you seeing anything or hearing anything on your end? 570 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:24,000 I'm hearing nothing on my end. It is completely silent out here. 571 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,000 Okay. I'll let you know if I hear anything else. 572 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:36,000 After an hour of scanning the skies, we're definitely not getting lucky. 573 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,000 And then... 574 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:43,000 Wait, it's back. That hum is back. 575 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:49,000 Did you see that? Did you see that? What the hell is that? 576 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:54,000 It's traveling south. It's hard to keep focus on it. 577 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,000 It's starting to disappear behind the clouds. 578 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,000 Jesse, are you there? 579 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,000 I'm here. 580 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,000 I saw something. I don't know what that was. 581 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,000 It wasn't flashing like a plane. I don't think it was a satellite. 582 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,000 We've been seeing some weird stuff out here, so who knows? 583 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,000 Do you still have eyes on it? 584 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:19,000 No, I lost it. It was heading south towards White Sands. 585 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:30,000 I continue listening for any strange sounds while Phil keeps scanning the stars with the military-grade scope. 586 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:36,000 But after scouring the sky for hours, there's nothing else to report. 587 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:44,000 I'm shocked that Jess and I managed to record not one, but two unidentified flying objects in a single week out here. 588 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:49,000 Both were traveling in the same direction, south, toward White Sands' missile range. 589 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:57,000 So, as a new day dawns, we work the phones to try to gain access to this highly secure military base. 590 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:02,000 Unfortunately, our requests for information have so far been denied. 591 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,000 Yeah, real shocker there, but here's the good news. 592 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:15,000 We located a fellow investigator who has uncovered a new link between the White Sands missile range and the 1964 Lani Zamora incident. 593 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,000 And he has a paper trail to prove it. 594 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,000 Hi! 595 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,000 Hey Dave, I think we can finally track you down. 596 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,000 Nice to talk to you. 597 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,000 Dave, take a look at the video. 598 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,000 We can track you down. 599 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,000 Nice to talk to you. 600 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:34,000 Dave Thomas is a scientist, mathematician, and president of the investigative group New Mexicans for Science and Reason. 601 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:39,000 And after tireless research and study, he believes he's finally cracked the Zamora case. 602 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:43,000 So you have great new evidence on the Sikoro incident. Do you mind sharing that with us? 603 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,000 I think the best explanation probably is this. 604 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:59,000 It sounds extraordinary that UFOs visited Sikoro, New Mexico to keep tabs on our nuclear arsenal. 605 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,000 Unless of course it's happened before. 606 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,000 And many claim it did, across the pond. 607 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:09,000 It's called the Rendlesham Forest Incident, dubbed Britain's Roswell. 608 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:18,000 In 1980, military personnel claimed to spot UFOs near RAF Bentwaters, an air base in England that was being used at the time by the US Air Force. 609 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:25,000 I've personally investigated this story and met with former deputy commander of the base, Lieutenant Colonel Charles Halt. 610 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,000 There it is. I see it too. What is it? 611 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,000 We don't know, sir. 612 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:39,000 Colonel Halt claimed that an unidentified craft shot a beam of light into the base's weapons storage facility, which had long been rumored to house nuclear weapons. 613 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:44,000 If an alien craft really did visit that base, maybe now we know why. 614 00:36:45,000 --> 00:37:01,000 Jess and Phil have been investigating unidentified objects that have been reported over Sikoro, New Mexico since Officer Lonnie Zamora claimed to have encountered an alien craft in 1964. 615 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:10,000 And scientist Dave Thomas might have just discovered hard evidence that can finally explain one of the most iconic events in UFO history. 616 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:14,000 I think the best explanation probably is this. 617 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,000 That is interesting. 618 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,000 Oh, wow. 619 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:26,000 The White Sands Missile Range was testing the lunar surveyor on April 24, 1964, and we have logs from the range. 620 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:30,000 April 24, 1964. 621 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:41,000 The very same day Lonnie Zamora had his encounter, and according to the test logs from the White Sands Missile Range, it's the same day they are testing this highly secretive lunar surveyor. 622 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:49,000 Keep in mind, this was at the height of the space race and five full years before Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin landed on the moon. 623 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:55,000 The surveyor had three landing pods, and then it had four rocket engines. 624 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:59,000 And that would have been just one of the strangest gadgets you could imagine. 625 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:08,000 One of the things that Lonnie mentioned seeing when he came across the UFO was the fact that it had this blue flame shooting out from underneath it which scorched the earth around it. 626 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:09,000 What could that have been? 627 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:15,000 I think what they were testing is these rockets, they were on the bottom of the craft. 628 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:22,000 Lonnie Zamora did see something strange, but we think it was probably from White Sands, not from outer space. 629 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:28,000 Is there anything else about Zamora's description that you think matches up to this lunar lander? 630 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:34,000 The two guys in the coveralls could have been the people in the helicopter. 631 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,000 That is interesting. 632 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:44,000 Since gravity on the moon is six times less than that on earth, the surveyor was suspended from a helicopter to mimic the conditions of a lunar landing. 633 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:51,000 And that helicopter was piloted by two people, the same number of beings that Officer Zamora described. 634 00:38:52,000 --> 00:39:00,000 Dave also has an explanation for one of the landing's most puzzling details, the strange symbol that Officer Zamora reported adorning the craft. 635 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:05,000 Lonnie Zamora actually said he saw some sort of symbol on the side of the craft. 636 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:15,000 The logo that Lonnie saw may have been from a Hughes aircraft company. 637 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:20,000 The Hughes aircraft company actually built the first lunar surveyor for NASA. 638 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:24,000 And that actually matches up to a known company at the time? 639 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:30,000 Pretty close to what's on Howard Hughes's business card. Man, it's a pretty good match. 640 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:39,000 Yeah, I can see it. While not an exact match, you could definitely see the similarities, considering Lonnie Zamora sketched the symbol he saw from memory. 641 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:45,000 How come Project Blue Book didn't know what White Sands was launching, you know, test equipment that day? 642 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:53,000 You know, when you work on a classified facility like White Sands Missile Range, they have compartmentalization and need to know. 643 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:57,000 So the government might have been keeping secrets from itself, essentially? 644 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,000 It does it every day. 645 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,000 Thank you, Dave. 646 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,000 Thank you, Dave. 647 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,000 All right, what do you think? 648 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:12,000 Well, this Coral thing, completely unexplainable, and bizarre. And then we talk to Dave. 649 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:19,000 I have to say, what Dave is bringing to the table is tough to ignore. 650 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,000 It makes so much sense. 651 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:29,000 He actually has solid proof that White Sands Military Base had scheduled that lunar test that same day. 652 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:33,000 But it still doesn't explain away all UFO sightings. 653 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:42,000 Based on this new revelation, the Lonnie Zamora incident is most likely explained by top secret testing of a lunar surveyor. 654 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:51,000 But, as Jess points out, this does not discount every strange sighting over Sakura, and there may be more to this story than meets the eye. 655 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:57,000 After further analysis and enhancement of the mysterious object captured above the mesa. 656 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,000 What is this? 657 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,000 Oh, look at its spin. 658 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:10,000 And after isolating the strange sounds collected on the parabolic microphone, both pieces of evidence remain unidentified. 659 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:14,000 There's little doubt that life exists beyond Earth somewhere in the universe. 660 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:21,000 As for those who insist they've witnessed aliens flying over the skies of Sakura, that remains to be proven. 661 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:27,000 So, keep looking skyward, because the truth really is out there. 662 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:34,000 For more information on Expedition X, head to Discovery.com.